tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post3223284337350917343..comments2023-07-09T13:01:57.574+05:30Comments on The New Bhagavad-Gita: Shock Treatment in the Bhagavad-GitaHRKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05905379167629541190noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-56191897962280192602011-03-22T10:41:22.751+05:302011-03-22T10:41:22.751+05:30I think it is hard to let go when someone has mast...I think it is hard to let go when someone has mastered something. <br />This is true for anything. That is why many people walk around with cow dung in one hand and soap in the other. Hindus are amazingly assimilative people. We want that yellow dhoti and Western suit for wedding at the same time. Now we also have added that Taliban dress, even in Southern India. Krishna in a way is the greatest reformer Hinduism ever had. He plainly said the yoga he taught eons ago was LOST to Arjuna. That shows the value of elders who were around Arjuna. It is hard not to see that Krishna was not a revolutionary! That is why 18:66 is VERY TOUCHY for orthodoxy. Basically they were put out of business. So some of them created Prapatti through an acharya, in spite of 18:66 simply to stay in circulation. Also they wrote mile long bhASHyams to ensure that every ritual they were familiar with stays. If we fail to see that Krishna did not rattle the cage, then we basically missed the message and for such people, Gita is no different than Garuda Purana.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-90811449777070632152011-02-12T18:26:38.125+05:302011-02-12T18:26:38.125+05:30Respected Sir,
Truly it's not easy to underst...Respected Sir,<br /><br />Truly it's not easy to understand the scriptures in full. That's why Krishna says "What is the use of all the Vedas<br />when one has *realized the ultimate truth*?" (2:46b) Vedas are redundant for one who has realized the ultimate, just like how the manual becomes useless once we know perfectly well how to operate the machine. So this is a particular case when scriptures become redundant.<br /><br />Otherwise, Krishna says in 16:24 --<br />"Therefore, let the words of the wise (i.e. the shastras) be your guide in determining what should be done and what should not. Having understood the eternal wisdom, you should act accordingly."<br /><br />Thanks for your comments. It surely adds value to our blog because we are sharing our thoughts and raising questions, which is always good!<br /><br />Warm regards,<br />HariHRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05905379167629541190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-31948866429432878032011-02-12T12:57:46.833+05:302011-02-12T12:57:46.833+05:30Dear Swamin,
I do read your blogs - u would have n...Dear Swamin,<br />I do read your blogs - u would have noted my pseudonym here. I still say that Bhagavan did not suggest revolutionary ideas but a way for normal living keeping HIM in mind at all times.<br />You say that Manual is useless when One learns operates the machine - in this case, it is simply not possible to complete the understanding the scriptures - even Bhagavad Gita cannot be understood even if one learns the slokas by heart - every time you read it it gives a new insight - EVRY TIME - any scripture - whether Vishnu Puranam / Srimad Bahgavatham / Sundrakandam etc. that is the beauty of the scripture - no way can it become useless of redundant -<br />I am recalling my experience with you sir - no way to dissuage you from this good work you are doing - I thought I would merely add value to your blogs. Please note it appropriately that is all - <br />Dasan<br />MadhuUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04143849311029402675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-60735449852992137132011-02-12T00:06:02.451+05:302011-02-12T00:06:02.451+05:30Respected Sir,
#1. Verse 18:66
sarvadharmān parit...Respected Sir,<br /><br />#1. Verse 18:66<br />sarvadharmān parityajya<br />mām ekaṃ śaraṇaṃ vraja<br />ahaṃ tvā sarvapāpebhyo<br />mokṣayiṣyāmi mā śucaḥ ||<br /><br />sarvadharmān: all dharmas<br />parityajya: abandoning, giving up<br />mām: to me, unto me<br />ekaṃ: only<br />śaraṇaṃ: surrender<br />vraja: go<br />ahaṃ: I<br />tvā: your<br />sarva: all<br />pāpebhyo: from sins, from sinful acts<br />mokṣayiṣyāmi: (I) will liberate, (I) will give moksha<br />mā: do not<br />śucaḥ: worry<br /><br />Giving up (or transcending) all forms of dharma, take refuge in me alone. I will liberate you from all sins, do not worry (or grieve).<br /><br />#2. "what you are suggesting abandoning one's own duties as laid down in scriptures."<br />We are not suggesting this. Which line of the article indicates this?<br /><br />#3. "Also Krishna did not suggests to abandon scriptures as suggested by you"<br />We are also not suggesting that Krishna asks people to throw out the manual. He is merely saying that the manual is useless unless you use it. Also, once you know how to operate the machine, then the manual is redundant. See BG 2:46.<br /><br />#4. "...there is a limit to so called revolutionary ideas as suggested by you."<br />These are revolutionary ideas of Krishna, not ours!<br /><br />Hope this provides a satisfactory response. If not, I am willing to elaborate on my world-view. Our intention is not to hurt anyone's sentiments but rather present the thoughts of Krishna the way we understand it.<br /><br />Warm regards,<br />HariHRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05905379167629541190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-71822570218619350362011-02-11T18:39:58.679+05:302011-02-11T18:39:58.679+05:30Dear Author,
It is indeed shocking to note that yo...Dear Author,<br />It is indeed shocking to note that you have interpreted the "Ma Su Cha" verse in pulverted way and thereby misguding people <br /> - Ideally it should be translated as below"<br />"Transcending all the dharma, take refuge in me along, I will ensure liberation" - This is the view taken by Rajaji <br />Parallel to this is the situation - a baby is borns and starts walking by holding its mothers hand. However transcending is overcoming this short comings, it walks by itself leaving mother's hand - NOT ABANDONING ITS MOTHER - what you are suggesting abandoning one's own duties as laid down in scriptures. <br />Also Krishna did not suggests to abandon scriptures as suggested by you - your suggestion is like throwing out a manual of instructions while operating a machine (simple one like a TV or a complicated one like complex software application) and try to do research. <br />Agreed Hinduism is EXTREMELY TOLERANT - but there is a limit to so called revolutionary ideas as suggested by you. Be aware that youngsters might read this blog and use words rather carefully if not parsimonoiusly<br />MadhuUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04143849311029402675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-59528701991652059572010-08-12T10:17:46.209+05:302010-08-12T10:17:46.209+05:30Thanks for your comments. Well, in a broad sense, ...Thanks for your comments. Well, in a broad sense, there is no need for a middleman (like a priest or a tantrik) to plead on your behalf to god. There's a saying in Kannada "devaru vara kottaru poojari vara kodlilla" (even if god gave a boon, the priest didn't!) and we're talking about that.<br /><br />Of course one needs a guru for elevating oneself. Krishna himself takes the role of a guru for Arjuna, so no doubts about that.<br /><br />Thanks for your interest in reading the book. We will inform everyone on our blog/FB page/twitter page when it comes out.<br /><br />Warm regards,<br />Koti and HariHRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05905379167629541190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-87616812074447284492010-08-09T23:19:18.922+05:302010-08-09T23:19:18.922+05:30I am speaking for the authors here... The article ...I am speaking for the authors here... The article above does not use the word middleman as in Gu-ru but more along the lines that ultimately there is no need for a via media for connecting with the supreme. Also guru (internal or external) can take you along the right path, but you are ultimately responsible for yourself.lokakshemamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868426843533131528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-41818728865638394142010-08-04T19:51:30.210+05:302010-08-04T19:51:30.210+05:30Interestingly put forth and in simple language...I...Interestingly put forth and in simple language...I would love to read the book...I like the title too..somehow cannot seem to agree with what u call the "middlemen". They are not necessarily unnecessary.Sometimes when you are lost a "swami" does give you the guidance to navigate through life's distracting struggles. Yes u need to find the right "guru". And a true seeker will get guided to that teacher ...there is an old adage: "When the student is ready, the teacher appears"and a teacher need not necessarily be in the human form, could even be a book ... <br />As long as it leads to enlightenment or the understanding that there is no "you" and "me" and the god in you is the god in me. That's what I think you say when you talk about the "same inner spirit".<br />Rama Sampath KumarRama Sampath Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172854502840986498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-718497182293945582010-05-26T11:06:27.196+05:302010-05-26T11:06:27.196+05:30Respected madam:
Thanks for your kind words! We h...Respected madam: <br />Thanks for your kind words! We hope to get the book published by the later part of this year. We'll keep you posted on the blog. <br /><br />Meanwhile, if you are on Facebook, you can check out our page: http://www.facebook.com/newbhagavadgita<br /><br />Best regards,<br />Koti and HariHRKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05905379167629541190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467745081439255324.post-6910670353828526832010-05-26T02:55:38.325+05:302010-05-26T02:55:38.325+05:30Congratulations! Thank you for sharing information...Congratulations! Thank you for sharing information through this blogspot. I look forward to reading your book.<br />Jyotsna Kalavar (Pittsburgh)Jyotsna Kalavarnoreply@blogger.com